Do you think 2011 will bring changes to the economy? After voting, please EXPLAIN your answer by ADDING a comment. Thanks!

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Are we ready to get back to work?

The woes of our unemployment and economic crisis track right back to our government and the countless failed policies we have been powerless to make any meaningful ground.

It is however, my opinion that some of us skilled professionals in business, finance, manufacturing, marketing, production, logistics, communication, media, social media, technology and lobbying, (just to name some) can band together and build successful start-ups.

I for one am not ready to resign my faith as to be a failure or quitter.

I too am acutely aware that I am only one highly skilled business professional, highly talented, highly motivated person, and though I am alone, I am not alone in this grim economic situation.

I am only one but if, JUST if enough of us could come together and form a strong team of business professionals to address area's of economic need, formulate a solid business plan, recruit additional talented individuals to join the team and market a solid plan to various private, public and commercial funding sources we CAN as a team succeed at getting start up funding and beyond while regaining our pride and prove to ourselves, our friends and families and our government we can be the poster child for entrepreneurial success.

There are many economic needs in this country and creative minds, young and old alike, can come together and create a success story of a group of unemployed people getting together and building a successful company that puts many to work and we can then continue this practice and expand into various emerging markets.

If you are a proven professional, motivated, honorable, a team player, have an abundance of contacts and are interested in joining me to create a team that will start and build a successful company from nothing but our collective experience then please email me.

VJSSR777@aol.com

chuck's picture

You sound like me, only better!

That's what I've been talking about for years -- people just need to get together and make things happen. There is so much "human capital" (and financial capital) just sitting on the sidelines now. It's one of my pet peeves -- in a world where so much needs to be done, and with so many willing to do it, people are unemployed and things are not getting done.

The government, obviously, isn't going to help much. That much is abundantly clear by now. It will be up to people to take responsibility, organize and make things happen. It was one of the main reasons I built this site -- to try and get people together.

I will shoot you an e-mail, and I hope others will do the same. There is actually an access-controlled part of this site that is a project management system (that I built, snapping together various Drupal modules and writing a few lines of code) that we can use.

Look for my e-mail this weekend.

When life hands you sh*t, make fertilizer.

janejane's picture

economy poll

I voted no. Because the 1% rich want to stay rich. Why would they care about the 90% working poor (there is no longer middleclass) to get their share of the good life. And what I mean by good life is a life without living day to day, not worrying about how to pay the rent, how one is going to eat, and to have a good night sleep.

As long as the rich have their's who cares about ours.

jane

Out the door!

Finally, things have trickled down to military contractors. Our contractor positions are funded by the branch of military I work for. The military uses these companies to handle benefits and other details involved in having an employee, thinking they would save money.(This didn't work. They ended paying the companies way too much over the salary and benefits cost. I couldn't believe how much my employer got for me!!) They are now $130 million in the hole for this year and that is just for the southeast region. We have been told FY12 will be even worse regarding jobs. Government personnel and contractors will be laid off in even larger numbers. We were so confident around this large military base because the jobs were there and the housing market never crashed here. Well, besides the base, we are a rural area and there is not much here except close-knit country families who are dependent on each other. Most of us cannot or will not leave. We have a small industrial park but none of them is hiring and certainly not a forester :) I was laid off in February of this year along with 13 others and can't find anything. I felt confident that things would get better until this wake-up kick in the ass. Now, my confidence in things getting better has diminished. I feel like the downward spiral is not over. It has just slowed to a trickle so subtle it is hardly noticeable. Yeah, I'm depressed and denied it for 2 and a half months.

chuck's picture

Inefficiency kills

The military uses these companies to handle benefits and other details involved in having an employee, thinking they would save money.(This didn't work. They ended paying the companies way too much over the salary and benefits cost. I couldn't believe how much my employer got for me!!

A perfect example of how public wealth flows upward and screws over working people. The company that had the benefits contract made a boatload of money. Their c-level executives made millions. Their peewee execs made hundreds of thousands... and you got screwed because the money ran out.

I would be willing to bet that whatever you were doing was adding more value to our national defense than any five of those overpaid, pompous f*ckt*rds mentioned above.

It is flat-out stupid to think that a private for-profit company can handle these things more cost-efficiently than a government agency can. Why add another layer of cost? Why not just have the military/DoD handle its own HR issues? I mean, really, a few more public servants is going to cost less than a whole new top-heavy corporate profit parasite sucking at the public teat.

This problem is epidemic throughout the DoD and throughout our country, actually. "Privatization" has resulted in higher -- not lower -- costs, in less -- not greater -- efficiency. Why? The reason is very simple:

1) It adds an un-needed layer of complexity (a new organization outside of the organization ultimately tasked with the work)
2) Pouring taxpayer dollars into profit-making enterprises instead of directly into the public interest is wrong and stupid on its face.

Anyway, I'm done pontificating. I just want to say one thing to you, personally:

...there is not much here except close-knit country families who are dependent on each other.

That's a tremendous asset. You're lucky to have those close community ties. Nurture that. Put your heads together. Work together. It will be OK in the end.

When life hands you sh*t, make fertilizer.

Will things improve?

I love all the "we will survive and thrive" B.S. I really don't think people understand what is going on with the economy and jobs. First off there is NO jobs policy and the figures for unemployment are woefully underestimated. Obama has GE's Imelt as his labor/jobs czar. A company that has outsourced much of it's labor and is offshore and pays no taxes. Until we deal with the fact that we "boomers" are too many and jobs are too few, we will continue to suffer.The latest college grads can barely get a minimum wage job. There may be entrepreneurs out there thinking outside the box. How much debt are they in and how much money are they making? This notion that we are going to pick ourselves up by the bootstraps is more magical thinking. I have had my hours cut, through no fault of my own and may be unemployed soon. The economy is not getting better. Almost everyone I talk to contractors, real estate agents, business owners are STILL saying they have never seen anything like this in their lives. NO one is asking how it got this way or why. Until those who drove this economy into a depression, yeah, I said it! Are held accountable and forced to go to jail, or pay to fix what they broke, we will all be paying the price. So get get 'em with your good old fashioned work ethic, which didn't save you from being laid off! everyone is in denial and thinks things will turn around. It's called magical thinking. And until we hold our government accountable, and create a revolution to dethrone the corporatocracy, things are NOT going to change.

chuck's picture

Agree to a large extent

It is imperative that people take civic responsibility seriously and hold our leaders -- both government and private sector -- accountable in a serious way, i.e., with consequences.

You are correct that it is no accident that we find ourselves here, that poor decisions (or maybe just evil ones) made at the top of the "food chain" have put us in this situation. I happen to believe that we need a revolution of sorts. We're clearly not getting "change we can believe in" from the current power structure; we're getting more of the same with the occasional rhetorical bone thrown our way.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: It's not about right and left, it's about right and wrong. The Man keeps us divided, squabbling over minutiae. The margins of "acceptable debate" are kept artificially narrow.

Let me be perfectly blunt about what I mean:

  1. There is no serious discussion of taxing the very richest Americans at a higher rate. Billionaires pay an effective rate of 15 percent since they make most of their money on capital gains, not productive labor. Obama pointed out the unfairness of that in his campaign... then hired the same crooks that set things up this way as his "economic advisors." We've seen a massive redistribution of wealth upward in the past 30 years, and it has brought us to where we are today. The economy prospers when the middle and working classes prosper. The middle working classes can't prosper when the rich take everything. It's that simple. Even so, this issue is off the table in favor of "austerity" (yeah, right).
  2. There is no serious discussion of curtailing our out-of-control defense spending. We can all agree that we need a strong military, but do we need to spend as much as the rest of the world combined to have a strong military? Are we really getting our money's worth here? What, exactly, are we gaining for the $100 billion or so we're spending in Afghanistan this year? When was the last time the Department of Defense faced a serious audit? Do we really know where the $600 billion (not including the wars) defense budget is going? No. But this issue is off the table. Defense spending is sacrosanct even though we're supposedly in a period of "austerity."
  3. There is no serious discussion surrounding the prosecution of serious white collar crimes. We know that we were lied into a war. We know that the UDHR was violated. We know that Wall Street crooks ran the economy into the ground and stole taxpayer money to bail themselves out. We know that high crimes were committed. Yet who are we prosecuting? Whistleblowers.

I could add about ten other issues to this list to demonstrate that the bounds of acceptable debate are constrained to a small area that favors the liars and crooks at the expense of the common people. So I agree with you that the deck is stacked and that we will never climb out of this depression until we stand up and assertively demand government by, of, and for the people.

Now to the area where I disagree with you somewhat.

We are each responsible for our own lives. Even in the best of times, the world throws curveballs and circumstances are never perfect. I hate hearing the "up by your bootstraps" crap too, even though I'm guilty of spouting it. But you know what? When shit gets really bad, all you have is hope. Let go of that and you go from shit to Jack shit. You play the hand you're dealt, not the hand you wish you were dealt.

Self-pity is self-defeating. There is no magical thinking involved with that postulate.

Self-confidence and can-do-it-ed-ness never hurt. No magical thinking there.

Plenty of people have experienced hell on earth -- we're talking war, famine, abuse, incredible poverty -- and came through it OK. That is a fact. I don't believe that it is "magical thinking" to adopt a positive attitude and believe that one will make it through, and I do believe that it serves nobody to tell them all the reasons that they can't succeed.

That said, yes, we need to take our civic duty seriously, unite, and bring about real change or life will be much harder than it needs to be for the vast majority of us.

When life hands you sh*t, make fertilizer.

smjennings's picture

You may be interested in these...

Chuck, in regard to your point about defense spending, this documentary is worth a watch: http://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Fight-Gore-Vidal/dp/B000FBH3W2/ref=sr_1_1?s...

(I was able to find it at my local library.)

Haven't read this yet, but sounds interesting: http://www.amazon.com/Unwarranted-Influence-Eisenhower-Military-Industri...

DMK's picture

Maybe

There is some good news to share in Q2 of this year.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/05/20/u-s-unemployment-falls-in-39-states-in-april/?icid=maing-grid7|maing5|dl6|sec3_lnk3|64578

Still a long road ahead.

Angela J. Shirley's picture

Q2

Thanks DMK for the news.

Yes because

I feel that it can't get much worse. I'm seeing a lot of people become entrepreneurs. I's seeing a lot of people become "out of the box" and out of my "comfort zone" thinkers. If it is to be...It's up to me has been a prevalent statement. Those over 55 are becoming workers. Those under 55 are realizing that the only way to handle this mess is to take a job WITH POTENTIAL. We are finding solutions. We are finding ways to cope. We are learning new alternatives. My group, ProNet Career Resources at www.pronetcareerresources.org has as its mission to motivate and bring this about. Yes, I feel that 2011 will be a better year because we're all realizing that we're not alone in this. Unlike previous years, the "why me" is being replaced by "I'm not alone" and do not wait for the "round tuit" as procrastination will get you no where. Got to be proactive. Now, off my "soap box". Hang tough, you can do it....I'm trying to survive too...and I will!! Howie at hra246@gmail.com

Angela J. Shirley's picture

Entrepreneurs

Hi hra246:

Thanks for stopping by and sharing with us!

Is there a FEE for your group?

Reason for asking:
A lot of us have lost our unemployment and really can not afford our housing or food(lol).

Second question, I am presuming from your post you are not unemployed?

If I am correct, how did you locate your job?

Reason for asking:
I love hearing success stories :)

Thank you,
Angela

No

I live in the UK so I know I'm not really answering for the right country here but lets face it - the whole world in falling in to the sh*t.

I'm only 19 and I left the equivelent of High School in America June 2010. University wasn't for me so I decided to find a job, or more specifically an apprenticeship.

I'm still unmeployed even though I passed everything at school and I am choosing to work long hours, learn more & get paid only £2.50 an hour which apparently is $4.05.

The United Kingdom's economy has got to a dire state. 7.9% (Nov 2010)of our working population are unemployed, the economy shrunk 0.5% in the last quarter of 2010, 20% of graduates can't find work. And our budget cuts are so severe that even public sector jobs are being axed.

So in this country things will get much worse before they get better.

Good luck to everyone here unemployed whether in America or elsewhere.

Angela J. Shirley's picture

Worldwide

Hi Anonymous:

I created this POLL is for everyone, not just the USA. Thank you for stopping by and sharing with us!

I am from Jamaica, West Indies and remember those pounds, shillings and pence as a child. What a pain it was(lol). Thank goodness we gained our independence and now have Jamaican Dollars & Cents.

If you don't mind me asking, how did you get your APPRENTICESHIP?

Reason for asking:
I love to hear success stories!

Thank you,
Angela

chuck's picture

Yes

It will change. That's always true.

I wish I shared your optimism, but I don't.

Inflation will be a factor when the bond market blows up. Interest rates will rise. A lot of public-sector employees will lose jobs. States and cities are broke, along with the federal government. When the bonds start coming due and can't be paid, it's Round Two of The Great Recession.

There are only two options, neither of them good:

1. The government keeps printing money, making the money worth less and less.
2. The government tightens its belt, resulting in major cuts and major job losses.

Probably, it will be some combination of the two.

Of course, commerce will go on. Life will go on.

When life hands you sh*t, make fertilizer.

Angela J. Shirley's picture

My answer is Yes

I feel that jobs will start to come back as companies begin to have hope for a better year. And I think all of us have learn't some lessons from not having stuff and have learn't to conserve on our resources - like cash. As we now proceed with caution with spending, this cash will help someone else keep their jobs.

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