Getting past "fired"

I have been out of work for 2.5 months. I had worked at a company for 7 years. I was abruptly fired, without warning, and for no tangible reason. I had missed 4 days of work in 7 years, been employee of the year, etc! They got rid of me (and another employee) because we made too much- and they wanted to hire new people for less money. So now I have this stain of being "fired." As if it wasn't already hard enough to find work! How do I tactfully get around the fact that I was (wronfully) terminated. I was an "employee at will" so they could fire me for no reason. Now, after 7 years of dedicated service, I am an unemployed person that was "fired." How do I present this to potential employers? Any advice would be appreciated.

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chuck's picture

First of all...

... eject that toxic recording from your mind at once. You were not fired. You were "re-orged." You were let go because the company was reorganizing. You are not a victim. You are not a loser. You are simply a person who does not have a job at the moment, like millions of others.

Not knowing what field or industry you're in, it is difficult for me to offer advice on how to present it to future hiring managers, but I will say this: I have actually been fired for cause (mainly being a cocky, arrogant jerk) on numerous occasions and have always managed to find a new gig. This is not (yet) the USSR or some other dictatorship where you lose every chance at a normal life for a small transgression. This is just a little bump in the road, ff, not a derailment.

The main danger here is self-sabotage. Put a different CD in your head, one that says, "Hey, their loss. I'm going to be just fine. In fact, I'm going to be awesome because I am awesome." or something like that.

Best of luck.

When life hands you sh*t, make fertilizer.

chuck

Chuck, you may have been a jerk at work as you say, but your advice here just made my month. You, for one, are my hero right now. Thanks! :) best of luck to you! (From one" jerk" to another) ;)

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Sorry to here that. My Uncle was fired for no reason. He was a principle for 20 years missing slim to no days. This economy is really screwed up. I know so many qualified people out of work. Whatever employer that comes along will have some sort of understanding as to why this mishappening occurred if they know anything about the economy we live in. This may cause a problem with your former employer because if the boss you are applying with wants to verify why you were "fired" and the previous boss lies that's defamation. They can not lie. That just makes your previous employer look bad because you were fired for no reason.

Take care.

The upside of "Fired"

It would be hard for your previous employer to dispute unemployment benefits. I believe with all the new laws your previous employer can not trash you they can only state that you worked for them. Most likely your previous employer will hire someone fresh out of college for a fraction of the cost and get what they pay for..someone with no experience. I can only hope that Karma plays a role in this and you will find an employer that truly appreciates you. I feel your pain....

chuck's picture

Not exactly

If you're fired for cause, you can't collect unemployment in many states, including the great state of New York. Be careful about that!

You're right that a previous employer would be an idiot to speak ill of you even if you were the worst employee ever -- opens them up to a lawsuit. They won't speak well of you either because that opens them up to a lawsuit if the company hires you and you end up costing them jillions of dollars. These days, they'll generally just give dates of employment in a reference so people really shouldn't worry about it.

When life hands you sh*t, make fertilizer.

58 and lost

Age and sex discrimination is alive and happening everywhere. Try to find a Lawyer to strap on a pair and take on the corporations, even if you have a slam dunk. After being “let go” in 2009 during the economic down slide, I went back to school to earn my degree. It has not changed my prospects for employment one bit. I now find my age and sex against me. I’ve been working part time for a Funeral Home for almost a year and can see the tide turning. At first I was getting 35+ hours a week, which kept my nose just above water level. I was told to be patient that they were going to hire me on full time as soon as a position becomes available. They gave me more responsibility, cross training, things were looking up. Then they created a full time "Supervisor" position for one of their "30" something friends, who is now hiring all his friends and slowly fazing out the older, experienced, dependable workers. Now I’m lucky to get 15 hours a week. I’ve gone from a trusted employee to a problem worker within a month, and it was all because I question my “Supervisor” or ask “why”. For some of us this is our only means of survival. We have lost everything we worked our whole lives for only to be replaced because we made too much money. Now we are just trying to survive so we are not sleeping in our cars. This new “Supervisor” has no clue how to manage people or interact with his employees. We have one woman who has worked here several years hoping for a full time position while jobs are given to men she trained or with less experience. This is right out of the 1960’s. The sad part is all the "click's". If you're not in the click your subjected to a wide range of back stabbing, gossiping, false accusations, anything to get you to quit. I’ve applied for hundreds of positions either on line or just walked in without any response or success. I look back and wonder “what the hell happened”. We were the generation who gave up so much or lost our lives to protect our freedoms, lost our careers in protest for our rights, change discrimination laws and unfair hiring practices, only to find companies still discriminate and are better at getting away with it. If you don’t have the money to shell out for the consultation fee, you can’t get a lawyer to even listen to you. One lawyer told me she charged 10K just to start the process. Who has 10k to throw away, I don’t have 10 bucks. There is no avenue’s for us and these greedy corporations keep getting away with it. The emotional and physical stress is becoming over whelming and disabling. I’m so lost and in shock. I’m only 58 but I feel 80.

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I don't know what to say

You have been heard.

If I were in your shoes, I would take a direct approach. It will be difficult to do, but swallow your pride and show your maturity. Approach the supervisor and explain your feelings directly. Start on a positive note, "I really enjoy my work here and am grateful for the job. Lately, though..." They may not even realize that they are discriminating against you, and nobody wants to be thought of that way nowadays. It may make them think, and they may appreciate your direct, mature approach. It's not like you have anything to lose.

Make sure to document everything just in case it doesn't make them think and they don't appreciate your honesty.

As for your stress and emotional health, all I can say is the same thing you've heard a million times: Eat well, don't drink, take a walk every day, breathe deeply, try to appreciate the little things in life -- a flower, whatever comfort you may have provided to a grieving family, a nice cup of herbal tea, a walk, a good book that you checked out from the library. Look for those little blessings. They tend to grow into bigger blessings if you can muster true gratitude.

Not that it's worth much, but I'm rooting for you.

When life hands you sh*t, make fertilizer.

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